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Humeral Anatomical neck fracture dislocation
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sugesst open reduction and internal fixation using PHILOS (
proximal
humerus locked plate ) Best of luck RABENA YWAFK
Dr. Hazem AbdelAzeem
Hi
there are two options , both through open reduction and internal fixation
either with K wires or proximal Humeral plate simillar to DHS with a screws
passing through the neck and part of the head .this plate is available in Egypt
and I did not see in Saudi Arabia.
الدكتور الكريم العلاج معروف ايها الطيب
ORIF
CRIF صعب بس ممكن تحاول Waleed Hammad
Dr .......
Dear brother
I would reccomend a CT scan 1st for planning to make sure where the head is from
the glenoid, it should be anterior but how far anterior , we need to know as
this would be very helpful for planning of your approach & if U would need a
vascular surgeon with U or not , or a neurosurgeon
after that anterior approch (extended deltopectoral) then reduction of the head
to the glenoid then reduction of the shaft to the head then fixation by plate or
K wires (I prefer locked plate)
immopilize for 3-4 weeks then start gradual movement
at the end U may get lucky with no AVN or with AVN but menimal symptoms
\ if things get worse in the future we will have the chance to make a descision
between arthrodesis & arthroplasty
thanks
Prof Dr Khaled Emara
Ain Shams University
Dr ......., whats hapening to you guys, no body will advice for Prosthetic
replacemnt as primary in 28yrs old man. He just need to operated on urgent
basis, reduced and fixed. Prosthetic replacemnt should be considered as seconday
solution. People get your finger out from their and do some work.
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Rgards to all.
Thank You
Based on the age I do strongly think that Open reduction then Fixation with 2 0r
3 Retrograde K wire from the metaphysis to the head without penetrating the
articular surface , It will heal with a better outcome than any prosthesis in
the short and long term even if he does require a prothesis after many years to
come .
Regards
Shenouda
hi .......
this is not only fracture but it is fracture and dislocation.
first relocate and then fix.
i think giving chance for fixation is better since this pt is young..
the risk of AVN is high.
pls check the type of dislocation u need to do CT, check forassociated findings..
thanks
Khalid A. Al-Ismail,MD
Musculoskeletal Radiologist.
Consultant Radiologist.
KFSH&RC (King faisal specialist hospital).
mobile +966505842332
P O Box 85232 Riyadh 11691. Saudi Arabia
Put it back!
You will not be able to get this reduced closed. The humeral head button
holes thru the capsule and then everything collapses preventing a closed
reduction.
Even if you had a hemiarthroplasty available in a 28 yo you should attempt
open reduction internal fixation.
Locking plate vs nonlocking cloverleaf plate - there is no science that shows
any advantage to a locking plate. The science out there suggests that the
mechanism of failure is just different.
Keys
- Identify all the fragments on the way in. Use the biceps tendon as a
landmark to help determine what is lesser tuberosity and what is greater
tuberosity.
- Place sutures (#1 vicryl) into the GT and LT on the way in to allow control
of the fragments
- You may need to incise the rotator interval to get adequate exposure and
access to the humeral head fragment
- Leave rotator cuff attached to GT and LT fragment
- Get the humeral head out of the axilla
- If you are having a hard time controlling the humeral head fragment use a K
wire as a joystick
- Place drill holes in the shaft laterally and anteriorly and then use sutures
thru the GT and LT to reconstruct the tuberosities much like with a
hemiarthroplasty
- Use K wires to obtain a temporary reduction
- I personally would use a cloverleaf plate and contour it a little into
valgus to get a more stable configuration. Your goal is to save the humeral
head and reconstruct bone stock not to obtain an anatomic reduction. I think
if you try to get an anatomic reduction there will be so much bone loss that
it will inevitably collapse.
Hope this is helpful
Regards
Christian
Open reduction and internal fixation after a CT know if its anterior or posterior dislocation
Warn the patient of high chances of avascular necrosis
DR C CHERIAN KOVOOR
KOCHI
INDIA
under general anaesthesia
OPEN REDUCTION AND INTERNAL FIXATION BY A LOCKING PLATE
Only closed reduction and k.wire fixations
Please explain how you do a closed reduction for these
cases.
Regards
Christian
So under G A i ask my assitat to do axial traction and i felt the head under my hand and with gentil pushing the head we get the reduction , and we were very happy for us and for the patient , Once the head reduiced you did extenal or internal the get better reduction, and i fixed by K.WIRE,
REGARDS
ESB
Very interesting.
I have never been able to get these reduced closed and do not even try any
more.
That being said, I cannot argue with the reduction you obtained. If you can
maintain it with K wires and not get a pin tract infection the outcome will
be fine - likely as good or better than ORIF
Regards
CV
You did a great job. Marvelous reduction.
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the Pt. is too young for prosthesis, you can do open reduction and
fixation with 2 6.5 mm cancellous screws.
Dr Madgy, I would suggest Open reduction with distal to proximal 4mm partially threaded screw entering below the level of the axillary nerve, Regards.
Dear Dr. .......
thanks for your letter, the only treatment for anatomical neck
fracture is shoulder hemiarthroplasty, because of AVN of the humeral
head which is inevitable because of deprivation of blood supply of the
head, this treatment is valid whatever the age is. So my opinion is to
transfer the case for any hospital has shoulder arthroplasty.
Thanks
Amr Abdelhady
prof of orthop.
Ain Shams University
Consultant of shoulder surgery
One month ago, I had a similar case, SUBHAN ALLAH, and it went good by fixation via 2 k wires and tension band. The most important step in such cases is the perfect reduction of the dislocated head. You will find it as a cap that's stripped of all attached soft tissue cuff. You might need anchors for reattachment of rotator cuff back into place. You might use cancellous lag screws with washer for fixation augmentation. Best of luck Dr. Mohammed M Kotb, MD Ortho Lecturer Orthopedics, Assiut University Hospital, Egypt Currently, director of Reconstructive Microsurgery Unit, Saudi German Hospital, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia PO box; 2550, Jeddah 21461 Tel. 00966-2 6829000/6394000 Fax. 00966-2 6835874/6905038 Mob. 00966-558543389 e.mail, mkotborth@yahoo.com, mkotborth@hotmail.com, mkotborth@gmail.com ortho6.jed@sghgroup.net Dear Dr. ..
Assalam o Alaikum Dear Brothers,
I hope You all are keeping well. This patient requires Open reduction
and fixation by T2 Proximal Humeral Nail, Short , 8mm diameter(
Stryker). It can also be fixed by Polaris Humeral Nail.
Masalam
Dr Khurshid Shah
Orthopeadic Surgeon, Lancashire Teaching Hospitals UK
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